I test road Ricky... he was what I am looking for sort of.. nice, quiet & gentle.... he was good in the sand ring then when we hit the trails and every little pebble hurt him.. I made the owner take us back... no way am I gonna make a horse go lame just so I can go for a ride.. owner said if I decide to lease Ricky he will put shoes on him........ I don't know .. Ricky was a rescue he is now soft in the front end... Nice as he was I think I will have to pass on him.. NEXT (hehehe)... I have like 2weeks of riding ahead before I make a choice as to which horse I am gonna lease